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@bhtooefr @calvin
That happened to me when I clicked on Dan Harmon from Calvin's toot. I see an accurate post count but not the posts.

@coryw @calvin Basically I'm thinking federation needs to be more aggressive in general for good user experience

@bhtooefr @calvin That, and this may be the case, you really need to have a strong in-instance community to interact with. With just four users, it very much looks like "I'll start my own instance with blackjack and hookers".

@coryw @calvin Or be on a sufficiently big instance that sees all of the other instances' communities

stenoweb\coryw @coryw

@bhtooefr @calvin Yeah. There's definitely a good justification for going on a big instance. Part of that depends on how you want to use it and I think that's part of what makes it a liiiiittle bit of a thing that essentially presents itself as "for" techno-elites.

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@coryw @bhtooefr though again, I think Mastodon seems to be cutting a lot of that stigma away with its marketing, focus on UX, and the pushes from various twitterspheres

@calvin @bhtooefr We'll see. and it was noted on bolix yesterday that we are on an old version (I guess 1.6 and 2 is out?) so that was a bit of a thing. that may make it better, but the pictures I've seen on the GitHub still show this interface, so there's that.

@coryw @bhtooefr I made deploying it as much of a pkg based solution as I could

@bhtooefr @coryw so the old version is FreeBSD 11's problem

@calvin @coryw That's the bad thing about web services - you can take the packaged solution and be horrifically out of date, or you can take latest and have to maintain updates yourself

@coryw @calvin #WordPress is another huge example - IIRC there *IS* a FreeBSD pkg solution, but last I checked it was like a year behind current and didn't tolerate plugins or something

@bhtooefr @coryw FreeBSD seems to be the only distro/OS maintaining their own pkg with any effort, so I use that - I could deploy it myself, but it's mixed Rails *and* Node, which is a hassle, and I ain't got time to figure out and baby Docker, especially in a weird situation.

@calvin @coryw Although, looks like net-im/mastodon is 2.0.0_3 per FreshPorts...

@bhtooefr @coryw IIRC, maybe in -CURRENT; pretty sure I'm in -STABLE

It appears to be working so I'm not super pressed. If maintaining it is essentially just a matter of waiting until FreeBSD's packagers update it and then running their updates, I'm not too worried about it.

@calvin @coryw I'm on FreeBSD 10.3 and 2.0.0_2 is what's in my ports tree (my ports tree hasn't been updated in a while, I only do it when the security e-mail tells me there's a vulnerable port)

@bhtooefr @coryw reminds me that I should sub to the FreeBSD and OpenBSD security lists like I do with Debian; I have mailing rules in Exchange to process them for me

@bhtooefr @coryw

$ uname -rms
FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE amd64
$ pkg info mastodon

@bhtooefr @calvin @coryw It's also 2.0 in packages if you are using current instead of quarterly. Update in /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf. This is what I'm doing on my instance running in an iocage jail.

@Strog @bhtooefr @coryw shit, I remembered I could do that - I rarely use FreeBSD (gotta be patriotic with OpenBSD, or NOT GIVE A FUCK with Debian) so the thought hasn't popped into my mind - I'll likely run it over again soonish and see. Thanks!

@Strog @calvin @coryw Aha. Myself I use ports instead of binary packages, and use Synth to build them, so I'm getting the latest that my ports tree will give me. (Although I decided against running my own instance for Reasons™ that turned out to be good for federation reasons anyway.)

@Strog @calvin @coryw Also, best practice is apparently to override using /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD.conf per this, AFAIK:

@bhtooefr @calvin @coryw Yes, the override is the better option. I should have said that instead.

I run my FreeBSD boxes with empty rc.conf and put everything in rc.conf.d/ via Ansible. 😉

@coryw @calvin @bhtooefr The UI doesn't change. Someone in my timeline mentioned a third-party one but I'd need to find it.

@samis @calvin @bhtooefr There's one that simulates twitter, I'm fine with the interface, but it took a few moments. Calvin literally set up the server last night, so it's not *that* bad, but I don't know what it would be like to try to introduce new people to it.

@coryw @bhtooefr that, and imho there's no reason to not use a big instance (or a niche one like the .art one) unless you're a BIG NERD (I wonder who?)