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I think I saw @bhtooefr and @calvin use the term "exodus" a few times and I think I discovered what it meant. It wasn't about a mass migration to mastodon, but a migration to a new, similar-but-unrelated-and-incompatible platform?

@coryw @bhtooefr I think it's the general zeitgeist in that section of twitter - of which some people want to take advantage of this new situation; and some (read: us) are promoting Mastodon instead.

@calvin @bhtooefr *cliks reply all* there's a specific person trying to build an actual thing. twitter.com/AdrianCJax

Granted, the whole "omg jack follows bad people" - is that even new or did someone just comb through his follow list in detail?

@coryw @bhtooefr I think boofer would fill you in on that. It's just one of many things that causes that section of Twitter to express dissatisfaction - the question is, will they actually move over to /something/?

@calvin @bhtooefr well like, I know gravis isn't moving, for a few different reasons, chief among them being essentially the perception that masto's a weird internet libertarian fever dream and that the different technical features may or may not "do anything" -- whether the new feeling (and, I feel that the "feeling" of twitter not caring is newer) will change that, IDK. I of course can't find the thread because twitter search is awful.

@bhtooefr @calvin
The argument appears to be less about himself and more about the everyone else on twitter he sees and interacts with twitter.com/search?q=gravisliz

@coryw @calvin Ultimately I feel like he doesn't /want/ to understand Mastodon, reading through that thread, and he explicitly doesn't want to understand federation, even though there's not much to understand - from an end user perspective, it works kinda like e-mail, but better. However, if the userbase actually did migrate? He probably would end up migrating.

@bhtooefr @calvin

Perhaps that's the point to be made. Gravis doesn't want to be part of the FOSS circlejerk. He wants to go where the people are.

Eraserhead Baby @calvin

@coryw @bhtooefr another point - I know a lot of the thoughtleaders in SHT-twitter like Zoe Quinn have not only mentioned mastodon, but have actually donated largeish sums to it - have they moved over to it for their stuff? if they quit cold-enough turkey on twitter, perhaps they can get the critical mass on Mastodon.

or maybe they never really weanted Mastodon at all - they just want Twitter but <their demands>, and Mastodon is more of a strike than an exodus.

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@calvin @coryw I haven't found her on it, but I think part of the problem is the network effects - Mastodon aims to solve some technical problems with Twitter's centralized administration model, but if all of your friends are on Twitter...

@coryw @calvin I have found some people that I follow over on Twitter that made a clear attempt to use Mastodon and then just... stopped, probably because they didn't have an audience here, and maintaining multiple presences *is* difficult

@calvin @bhtooefr

I know that xychelsea is on mastodon, it looks like she posts pretty similar stuff on both. I don't know about Zoe Quinn, but those kinds of people tend to be able (or they use tools to do it) to manage multiple platforms more easily.

To display my own social exhaustion, I am also not on facebook at all.