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@calvin none of us do. It is supremely broken. I had to re-reply to something i replied to YESTERDAY and our instance still doesn't show over half the posts that are in the thread if you look at it on their instance.

and I still have no clue how federated timeline works

@bhtooefr That is what I ultimately settled on, which is much less clean and relies on you understanding that this is even possible, and that someone might do it.

@TrollDecker @deejoe

To expand, I think that just because UNIX was originally designed to run on computers older than we are with discrete components and an "I have Word documents bigger than that" amount of memory, I don't agree that as the '80s and '90s wore on it was at all inappropriate to put a GUI on it and use that system for other things.

That said, I very agree that probably Linux isn't necessarily the right of choice for every single IOT device.

@TrollDecker @deejoe

Sorry about that! It makes most sense as a direct reply to mstdn.io/@deejoe/9899446062380 instead of tacked onto the end of the thread.

The intent was ultimately to complain about electron, and to suggest that desktop UNIX with a GUI on its own isn't necessarily a problem.

@gaditb @dhammicmarxist

And, just thinking about it, there was no documentation that they did it to control potential influence from automated third parties that may have wanted to, idk, influence election results? (bots that inject themselves into every conversations matching certain words being one of twitter's bigger problems.)

@bea @bhtooefr @gaditb @djsundog @calvin Glad to hear it, because that does mean eventually when freebsd's packagers get new versions, the improvements will be there for people running their instances that way.

I feel the need to double down on not thinking that collapsing long posts isn't as important as people considering how they use length and how to compose posts to make them readable.

@bhtooefr @coryw @gaditb @djsundog @calvin we contribute what upstream will take but I do not think collapsing is one of those things.

mastodon.art/@veitstanz/989971

Not if somebody doesn't know that's a thing. How do you even find out that's a thing? I only know because someone mentioned it.

@dhammicmarxist @gaditb Intersting! And it was proven not to be a database scaling issue such as back in the day when the first ultra-big accounts were forming and they posted an engineering blog about seeing @replies before an actual post in the timeline?

Any links with information about this?

@dhammicmarxist @gaditb SIMILARLY on *this* web site, if you're on a small instance or if you're having a lot of cross-instance chatter, (important) parts of threads are extremely likely to get lost such as in toot-lab.reclaim.technology/@d , something a liiiiittle less likely once you find a thread on Twitter, it usually shows you all of the posts in it.

@dhammicmarxist @gaditb It's annoying, but the way I read the situation on twitter is not that it's intentionally suppresing tweets as much as the fact that a single instance social site at that scale is an extremely impressive feat, which sometimes shows problems at the seams, and also they tend to think people following many accounts want a summary view (the "In case you missed it" sections). I've heard there's no filter if you follow 50 or fewer.

@gaditb @bhtooefr @bea @djsundog

That almost makes it worse, from the perspective of someone who doesn't have skills as a coder or a web app administrator. @calvin instealled a freebsd package to make this happen and something that might make the experience better is only on the software on a handfull of nodes. Granted, "show all" won't fix the pretty blatant abuse problem of posting 500 of the same emoji all at once.

@pollyguo sry if I don’t follow u back !! Im easily overwhelmed on the TL and I’m a huge babby 🐶 trying to feel my style out on here

It’s 2.5 screens on my phone.

Since I can’t quote tweet it, this is intentional garbage that makes using social feeds unusable and is the reason there was such a huge backlash about the 280 on twitter.
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@gaditb that’s not how I saw it used on twitter, but I have a smallish account there, the thing I saw used for *that* was usually a screenshot of the tweet, sometimes with a name edited out, and so to me it seems like a bad technical solution to a problem some instances are using human moderators to fix anyway, or someone could report, if it’s an abusive disagreement. Anecdotally, I just figured out what “lrt” means an actual week ago despite being on twitter for like 7 years

@calvin or put a pile of mp3s on a flash disk. But even for me the iPod is way faster than my iPhone.

@gaditb I’m a way, masto encourages you to talk to everyone, where twitter tends to focus more on friends of friends, or the people who you follow follow. Rarely do i get more than three steps out, vs what the federated feed on this small server is like which is close to being busier than my twitter.